Welcome to For The Record, the Mozilla project's community press response initiative. The goal of this project is to ensure that Mozilla receives fair press coverage. For a general overview of this project, see Blake's blog post. The action is on our mailing list. So if you'd like to join this effort, subscribe.
Details on how to contribute to the project once you're on the list are posted here.
Posted by bart at July 17, 2004 10:33 PMSimilar project proposals:
Press Watch a searchable database of news articles on open source and browser that may be of interest. It is an information tool, *not* a marketing project. It may be used for marketing or other purposes.
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Posted by: Daniel Wang at July 18, 2004 03:03 AMsorry, hyperlinks got lost
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Although Bart did encourage me to setup FANS, FANS is not an official m.o thing.
Based on what little I know of FTR, FTR and FANS should be complementary. FTR seems to be a subset of FANS, using a mailing list.
I encourage FTR members to frequent FANS and use its resources. It's a Wiki. It's barely begun. For those not used to Wikis, it will likely feel unfriendly and barren at first. However, it is in fact an openly editable hypertext, that, in successful Wikis, ends up full of deep, long term, Topic specific conversations going on all over the shop. Anyay, give it a chance. It's different, but you might find you like it. :)
If you want to read more about how FTR and FANS are very similar, and yet very different, read on, otherwise, to checkout FANS, please start at:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=FANS
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Bart, I'd appreciate it if you commented on the following. I plan to publish a revised version of this post elsewhere at a later date. TIA.
How FTR and FANS are different; Part 1
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FTR has a simple and narrow mission: *rapid* *press* *response* by *m.o insiders* and *fans*.
There's clearly a tradeoff between rapidity and things like reflection, consensus, and verified accuracy, so the trick with FTR will be how it resolves these tradeoffs. Bart has already stated that key press will be handled by m.o insiders; that helps. More generally, the list is explicitly stated to be a place to *act*, not *debate*, and m.o insiders will monitor the list.
FANS has a complex and broader mission. In part: get *fans* to collaboratively write *marketing* material.
Think Wikipedia. (*Including* Wikipedia's editorial policy of writing Neutral material.)
At first blush then, FANS has little in common with FTR -- just *fans* and *marketing*.
The rest of this post explains how FANS is supposed to work, and, as you'll see, shows how FTR and FANS end up being closely related.
How FANS and FTR overlap
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FANS is organized so that the key driving force for *prioritizing* what fans do is *Topics*.
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First, we pick a couple broad Topics -- for starters, things like "Firefox" and "Mozilla".
Then we set up searches related to those Topics.
Sound familiar? :)
For example, FANS has a Firefox page containing some preloaded searches:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Topic_Group/Firefox#Searches
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Next, we start Spotting what's out there.
Our focus at this point is *important* new *Topics* (narrower than Firefox or Mozilla) that our Spotting shows aren't adequately understood and/or covered by effective marketing materials.
We are interested to a much lesser degree, *at this early stage*, in urgent *Spots* (articles or authors that warrant special attention, eg a response).
This is a key way in which FTR and FANS have different priorities (at least in the shorter-term).
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A *key* element of FANS' Spotting is *feeds* of *searches* of *press*.
Sound familiar? :)
For example, note the preloaded Google News Alert URL on the page linked just above.
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But FANS is really interested in everything going on out there. FANS was never supposed to be (or, rather, remain) *focused* on spotting and rapidly responding to the latest press activity.
That said, FANS does/did have the notion of Hot Spots. The Hot Spots page is/was to include press activity that's getting a lot of attention. FTR may well directly replace or complement planned FANS' Hot Spots processes.
Also, once we've considered our response to particular Topics, and written corresponding materials, we will be able to -- and very much want to -- respond *rapidly* to Spots related to those particular Topics (regardless of whether those Spots are press or not).
For these Topics, FANS and FTR speed of response may well be indistinguishable.
How FTR and FANS are different; Part 2
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In FANS, the idea is that, as we spot a new Topic (narrower than Firefox or Mozilla) that isn't adequately understood and/or covered by effective marketing materials, we focus our energy on that Topic. This includes further Spotting focused on that Topic; Writing material for that Topic; and Posting that material to ensure that our material is effective.
So that's how our energy should flow, from Topic to Topic, building an ever larger Topic Base, rather than from Spot to Spot (though we will also build an ever larger Spot Base).
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For a given *new* Topic, the key point of FANS' Spotting and Posting related to that Topic will be to provide input and feedback to the Writing process that generates marketing material.
Once a given Topic has proven ready material, the Spotting and Posting emphasis for that Topic will be to use that material.
FANS has Topic Minders and Topic Teams. This way, a group of fans can focus on propagating our marketing material in relation to a particular Topic.
FANS could, but doesn't currently, have Spot Minders and Spot Teams. Again, this reflects a fundamental difference in priorities between FTR and FANS.
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Another key element of FANS is its dogma about what the nature of our marketing materials and response should be.
FANS is entirely open, so we can collectively define our stance. But for now it's what I've established.
For a variety of reasons, I believe that most material should be Neutral (non-partisan), a little should be Fair Propaganda, and none of it should be Unfair Propaganda.
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FANS is a lot more general than FTR. For example, although FANS is specifically designed to react to Spotting, that spotting doesn't need to be of articles, so much as anything that a search can match.
Thus, for example, we might use FANS to spot pages that contain the string "download Netscape", and post something suggesting the site mention Firefox:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Firefox_Annexing_Netscape_Sites
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Posted by: raiph at July 18, 2004 03:34 PMI agree that For The Record, PressWatch and FANS are complimentary projects. The PressWatch list include a number of very useful resources, including the EgoWatch page. FANS provides a set of resources for constructively engaging with press and captures messages as we develop them so that we can build on our collective experience. All the elements are now in place for the Mozilla community to help ensure that we receive fair, accurate coverage.
Posted by: bart at July 18, 2004 04:22 PMBart said:
> FANS provides a set of resources for constructively engaging with press
Do you mean this in the sense of taking a less "rapid response" approach?
Given something Daniel has said in the past, I'm slightly concerned that this might be about a misunderstanding about FANS. So I want to emphasize: it is/was not my intent that anyone gets invited onto the FANS Wiki, other than fans. (Not in the next year or two, anyway.) The Wiki is purely to enable fans to collaborate via a hypertext rather than a mailing list, something that makes sense given the focus on producing marketing materials and taking a longer term approach to everything.
> All the elements are now in place for the Mozilla community to help ensure that we receive fair, accurate coverage.
Apart from the thousands of snippets of marketing material we need of course. :)
But yes, with a little fan focus, by the time Firefox launches, we'll be able to consistently ensure we get a fair word in somehow at several key sites, on several key topics. And we'll just grow from there.
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http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Topic_Base
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Posted by: Anders at July 23, 2004 07:28 PMAnders said: "well I would like to see the keyword "browser" added at the very least."
Right now, there are 12,000 matches for "browser" using yahoo news search, and the first pageful of matches are irrelevant. (I didn't dig further.)
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=browser&datesort=1
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